Don't bet if...

[Dio]

Hangpa nih... tak abih2 lagi ka.... aku tinggai tak bawak hangpa pi bogor lepaih ni baru padan muka hangpa aku

Izin kan hamba yg tak abis muqadam ini memberi pendapatan 2 sen hamba (bukan fatwa, tau PNgah).... silap benda ini ialah kerana terminology nyer jer.... mat salleh panggil "wager" bukan "betting"...."betting" lebih menjurus kepada benda yang kita takde control spt. kuda mana yg menang, atau nombor apa yang naik, etc etc. It is almost exclusively dependent on  the factors of "chance" or "randomness".

Tapi, dalam "wager" golf ni, dia bergantung lebih kpd "effort" "skills" "knowledge". Macam PakNgah, kalau dia "wager" dgn Kerawit ker, Sepool ker, tentunya PakNgah menang... kerana skill level golf dia lebih tinggi, pengetahuan dia tentang "spin rate" of golf balls lebih meluas, etc etc

So, tak ada factor "randomness" di dalam perkara ini, aside from the "normal level' of chance, yang berlaku in everyday life....

Sekian lah pendapatan saya.... Untuk rujukan lanjut bole juga dapatkan kitab tafsiran fiqah ularmak Sheikhkul Al-Maliki Al-Arawi (published 1943) di kedai-kedai mamak suratkhabar berdekatan rumah anda 

thanks zoez, now barulah clear dan jelas. "wager" eh? sapa yg memandai bubuh nama "betting" ni ah?

btw, jangankan kerawit, syaipol...dgn perosak juara arau tu pun pun pak ngah bulih tibai punya lah

Waduuuuhhhhh..... POwer Pak Ngah skrg....
Amacam rematch nak tak? hehehehe

[pakngah]

Waduuuuhhhhh..... POwer Pak Ngah skrg....
Amacam rematch nak tak? hehehehe

re-match? kena tunggu sat dulu. nak pi driving range hit a few thousand pitch shots and a few thousand chip-and-run shots each day. pastu nak pi balance balik segala shaft, tukar grip, nak check dulu prototype scotty cameroon putter....so maybe january depan la kot kalau bulih buat re-match pun

[Dio]

Waduuuuhhhhh..... POwer Pak Ngah skrg....
Amacam rematch nak tak? hehehehe

re-match? kena tunggu sat dulu. nak pi driving range hit a few thousand pitch shots and a few thousand chip-and-run shots each day. pastu nak pi balance balik segala shaft, tukar grip, nak check dulu prototype scotty cameroon putter....so maybe january depan la kot kalau bulih buat re-match pun

OK January set..... tapi klu time tu saya dah main scratch camna? susah lak nak kira nanti.... 

[dzularmor]

Klu askar ajak main, prepare for the bet. Saya pernah sampai kat T-box 1 one guy tanya, nak nyanyi lagu apa. Masa tu kita baru main dan faham so saya cakap saya tak nyanyi. So cuba teka what happened next? Dia suruh hantar dia kat kereta, tak nak main, nak balik. Ha tu dia!

[pakngah]

Klu askar ajak main, prepare for the bet. Saya pernah sampai kat T-box 1 one guy tanya, nak nyanyi lagu apa. Masa tu kita baru main dan faham so saya cakap saya tak nyanyi. So cuba teka what happened next? Dia suruh hantar dia kat kereta, tak nak main, nak balik. Ha tu dia!

sampai lagu tu ka? masalah la macam ni! members kakigolf setakat ni yg pernah tee off dgn pak ngah, tak reti nyanyi langsung; nyanyi lagu oh mcdonald pun tidak, dondang sayang pun tidak, lagu 1Malaysia pun tidak. tapi pak ngah paham, sebab ramai yg baru masuk tadika golf, pukoi pun rata pinda lagi pak ngah ni pun, dah masuk tadika sejak 14 tahun yg lalu tapi belum graduate gak lagi

[pakngah]

don't simply bet with someone who plays off the red tee.

[dzularmor]

Pasai duit pool  ni, Klu ikut sorang Ustad tu nye guidelines, dia kata klu keluaq modai sikit tapi lepaih tu tak buat apa2, dok tunggu kot2 dapat untung lebih drp yg dia keluaq, itu tak boleh.  macam beli loteri dan 4E. Klu keluaq modai, lepaih tu usaha sungguh2, OB sana, OB sini, masuk ayaq, beli bola kat tepi fairway, dia kata takpa, ada usaha, macam orang berniaga jugak.

Ustad tu cakap lagi, duit pool  yg dah pool untuk makan, klu ada lebih tak boleh diambil bawa balik. Makan duit pool ada RM400. Makan RM120 je, yg lebih kena tingai atas meja ka, bagi kedi ke, waitresses ka, mcam tu la bunyinye.

Cuma klu nak main sapa menang dia bayar makan pulak, baik jangan memang. Sbb duit menang selalunye sikit tapi bil makan 3-4 kali ganda duit menang.

Happy golfing guys.

[pakngah]

dzulbesi (armor ),

hang dah dapat tauliah JAIS atau JAWI ke ni   anyway, geng pak ngah hang ni tak main pool pool ni, yg kami main "pond" dgn "kolam" (pantang nampak kolam, sure masuk)

dzul, bila2 u senang jom kita pi KRTU Subang? u member sana tak? u kalau main dgn pak ngah, tak payah bawak wallet utk betting atau pool. bawak "sabar" dah lebih dari cukup!

[dzularmor]

Worait. Minggu try PM or SMS, kita cari hari KRTU. Lama tak main situ. Cheers

[pakngah]

Worait. Minggu try PM or SMS, kita cari hari KRTU. Lama tak main situ. Cheers

wokay, nanti kita buka thread.

[mrfeelgood]

don't simply bet with someone who plays off the red tee.

Don't bet if ...................... You're playing with Pak Ngah!!! 

[Daddyjoe]

don't simply bet with someone who plays off the red tee.

Don't bet if ...................... You're playing with Pak Ngah!!! 

[pakngah]

Don't bet if ...................... You're playing with Pak Ngah!!! 

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yeah, don't bet if you were to play against me coz after the game, you would discover that I didn't bring any money

[Daddyjoe]

Don't bet if ...................... You're playing with Pak Ngah!!! 

yeah, don't bet if you were to play against me coz after the game, you would discover that I didn't bring any money
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worst still if you discovered that it was pak ngah's friend, Encik Arif you were playing with!

[pakngah]

don't ever, ever bet with an opponent who brings along caddies similar to these...